Far Cough
10:07 Mon Sep 18
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A few West Ham players played cricket, Jim Standen and I think Geoff Hurst?
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Lertie Button
10:01 Mon Sep 18
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Well sort of, but it was a fuck of a long time ago
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gph
9:49 Mon Sep 18
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My memory might be playing tricks, but in the ye olden days, didn't players from different London clubs do things like meet for other sports?
I seem to remember reading a report that Ferguson had won the 100 metres (yards?) sprint.
Typical West Ham, fastest player in the team in goal...
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The Mercernary
9:47 Mon Sep 18
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I believe Greenwood was the first coach to use overlapping full backs too, wasn't he?
I think Bobby said in his book that he implemented it for the young England team he was coaching before he came to us - under 23s maybe?
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Lertie Button
9:17 Mon Sep 18
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Personally I always felt Phil Parkes was a different class to Bobby Ferguson.
It has been said Bobby Robson's failure to sign Parkes for Ipswich coast them the title.
But I love Ferguson for his "gutless wonders" jibe, the truth hurts
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Crassus
11:00 Sun Sep 17
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Sold
Reckon we are the only team to ever brake the WR for GK's twice
Furgie was a right cunt of a bloke when we queued up for autographs on Thursday pay day as real young pups, him Peters and Hurst, Sir Bob was imperious and stayed as long as it took having made us urchins form an orderly line - God Bless him
Older and watching Furgie, he was shit in goal too before The Swerve took over
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Far Cough
8:37 Sun Sep 17
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Ah yes, the Mighty Magyars, between 1950 and 1956, the team recorded 42 victories, 7 draws and just one defeat, in the 1954 World Cup final against West Germany
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jack flash
8:14 Sun Sep 17
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Greenwood was as good a coach as anyone in England in his day
Light years ahead of most in his thinking which was based on the "Magnificent Magyars" when they ripped England apart
It was a forerunner to the "Total Football" of Ajax
We looked to be on the threshold of a great new era when Greenwood signed the dynamic due (Ferguson & Cushley) by gentleman's prior agreement
Great coach but no discipline & too many scruples to be a good manager
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boleynkid
7:42 Sun Sep 17
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Far Cough
Yes re McFarland. Outstanding player, him and Todd were a great partnership.
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Northern Sold
7:01 Sun Sep 17
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Yeah remember him a bit... was more a Mervyn Day time for me... another keeper who had the world at his feet
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Far Cough
6:57 Sun Sep 17
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Yeah 65,000 nicker, small for a goalie as well
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Northern Sold
6:54 Sun Sep 17
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Was it a WR for Bobby F?? He was not even the no 1 jock keeper...saying that Parkes was not nowhere near Englands no 1 when we broke the World record for him... blimey there was some good keepers around then....
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Northern Sold
6:49 Sun Sep 17
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Yup him and Kevin Beattie were incredible ... that's before his knee fucked him over....
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Crassus
6:49 Sun Sep 17
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FC
Cushley, I think. Don't forget a world record for Furgie (who was a right wanker as well as a shit keeper) when he could have had Banks
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Far Cough
6:46 Sun Sep 17
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McFarland is still the best opposition defender I have seen at UP
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Northern Sold
6:42 Sun Sep 17
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Centre half? Him and Paul Heffer were not the best... shold have got the lad McFarland in... imagine him and Mooro...
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Far Cough
6:37 Sun Sep 17
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or was it Alan Stephenson?
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Far Cough
6:36 Sun Sep 17
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Yeah and John Cushley instead of Maurice Setters
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boleynkid
6:34 Sun Sep 17
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Trevor also said that the mid sixties was a great time to be a youth player at West Ham learning the trade under Greenwood who was considered to be the best coach in English football (pictures in the mind and all that).
As many have said coaching seemed to be his strength rather than being a manager. Certainly clashed with Moore and many will know that Bobby seriously wanted out of Upton Park before the 66 tournament but the FA told him to patch up his differences with Greenwood as he had to be affiliated with a club to be able to play in the World Cup.
Just imagine what a team we would have had in the late 60's though had Greenwood not been a man of principle and signed Banks rather than Ferguson.
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Northern Sold
6:29 Sun Sep 17
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The following season he witnessed Hungary beat England 6-3 at Wembley. The game convinced him that he wanted to become a football coach. He later recalled: “I knew then for sure and reality that football was a combination of thought and intelligence, and fun and concentration, and vim and vigour, and everything if you like, even art if you want to call it that.”
http://spartacus-educational.com/WHgreenwood.htm
Superb read here on the GREAT man
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Northern Sold
6:21 Sun Sep 17
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Pretty sure it was Greenwood that took on what was happening abroad... especially in Hungary after them and Puskas had ripped us a new one at Wembley... and tried to put those principles into the English game... my old man wont have a bad word said against him .... saying that he wont about Malcom Allison,,, reckons he was a hell of a player before he got TB
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